I don't think you have a snowball's chance in Hell Gehenna of ever getting your money back but I think it would send them the message that former members don't just disappear into the woodwork anymore. They are being watched and are being held accountable like never before.
Pete Zahut
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I want my donations back!
by Hortenzie ini want to ask wt for my donations back.
i live in canada and i have income tax receipts from them so i can prove how much i gave them.... anybody ever tried something like that or heard about somebody doing it?
what approach should i take?.
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Why are JW REQUIRED to report Field Service Time???
by JT inif you ever wanted to know why this poster put it best
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in reply to: why do jw keep track of hrs?
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Pete Zahut
It's about accountability. Turning in time is not only a way to measure an idividuals spirituality or for those in charge to quantify or evaluate your relaitonship God but is also serves as a way to measure ones subjection to the organization. Many are not motivated by their love for human kind, they need a way to measure and compare themselves to others or to the group and they need a tagible way to prove their worth.
Mommy, I placed 4 magazines in service today.
Good boy Pete, you are making Jehovah's heart glad.
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Jehovah's Witnesses Street recruiting thwarted by "Apostates"
by Watchtower-Free inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fylyfc_0we.
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Pete Zahut
Gone are the days when they could go unquestioned. I don't mind that they have their own beliefs, it's the blocking of outside information to it's born in members that I am so against.
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Topic of Beauty
by Defianttruth ini have always wanted to travel to rio for carnival.
this morining i was reading an editorial on carnival that showed pictures of this years events.
wow beautiful.
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Pete Zahut
Lot's of plain ordinary folks in Brazil and lots of inexpensive plastic surgery there too. Hot weather, minimal clothing required and an uninhibited culture makes it easy to spot the ones who stand out in the crowd, looks wise.
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Possible Dub pickup line
by soutx in.
hey babe, how about you and me doing a -.
generation overlap
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Pete Zahut
"Hey baby, how bout' I spoil some of your useful habits"
" You say you don't believe in the hereafter....so then what are you here after ?? "
" There's gonna be some sighing and crying tonight but it won't be for peace and security"
" You really put the Ass back in Assembly"
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Watchtower Farms Cemetery
by Gorbatchov indid someone post this already?.
the list of the watchtower farms cementery.... http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&gscid=2403939.
gorby.
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Pete Zahut
Back when Mrs. Zahut and I were first married, there was this really nice, up with the times, well to do middle aged couple from our congregation that sold everything and went to Bethel. He was tall and quite a dynamo,booming deep voice, bald on top and had this outstanding salt and pepper moustache that dominated his whole face and was a really distinguished looking in a Teddy Roosevelt way. She was really really pretty, had a really pleasant voice, nice soft blonde hair and bright blue eyes and just so very elegant. Everyone thought the world of them. They used to get a big welcome when they'd return to our area in the summer for the D.C. each year. Their first year home he didn't have his trademark moustache anymore which was quite a shock apparently he was told to get rid of it.
The years went by and we never heard from them again. I often wondered what happened to them and if they were still at Bethel or even still alive. After reading this post yesterday, I scanned the list of those buried on the Watchtower grounds but didn't see them listed. I decided to google their names and located them within minutes. She is 85 and living in a small town about 45 minutes away from here. Sadly, he died several years ago. I was able to "Google Earth" their address and actually zoom in on their home. It turns out she is living in an older single wide mobile home in a small trailer park next to a busy 6 lane highway. I even found her phone number and was tempted to call her, but what would I say? Would she even remember me ? Is she being taken care of properly?
This is the second older couple I've known from my past that went into full time service for the organization and ended up living in an old mobile home. The other old couple I know is in their late 70's and lives in a County subsidised trailer park. He is a driver and she is doing retail because they don't have enough social security to live on and no retirement savings. Thankfully this 2nd old couple remain cheerful but I can't help think that it must be quite difficult for them to get up on these cold dark mornings and face the daily grind knowing they have nothing to fall back on and have to keep going till they drop.
Why is there no safety net for these people from the wealthy Organization they sacraficed everythig for? This makes me incredibly sad.
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Watchtower Farms Cemetery
by Gorbatchov indid someone post this already?.
the list of the watchtower farms cementery.... http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&gscid=2403939.
gorby.
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Pete Zahut
I noticed a man and woman in thier mid 30's with the last name of Rodriguez both died in 1997. Must have been a married couple who were in some sort of accident maybe?
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ALL JW's to be at the meeting this week...
by Newly Enlightened in.
we asked this person if it could be aqbout the terminology change and they said that was already read last week...... we remember the last time they did this.
got everyone all excited thinking the big "a" was coming and all it was about, was the literature would now be donated instead of charging for it.. .
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Pete Zahut
Dear Brothers,
As a cost cutting measure and to eliminate costly slip and fall insurance claims, baptisms will now be performed in the bathtubs of private homes rather than at the Conventions or Assembly Halls.
- Local Elders may perform baptizims for anyone wishing to be immersed. Be aware that a Husband or Sister must be present when Baptising a female.
- A Husband in good standing may baptize his wife and children but women must not baptize anyone.
- Congregation members may volunteer their personal bathtubs for use by those wishing to be immersed but may have an unbelieving or opposing mate or as is the case for many of our recent converts, live in homes without indoor bathroom facilities.
- Each Baptismal Candidate must fill out a (B-1975) Baptism Application form and answer the standard two questions checking either Yes or No in the appropriate box.
- Applications must be submitted to the Society within 30 Jewish Calendar days.
- A contribution of 150.00 has been suggested in order to cover the Watchtower Societies administratibe costs.
- Each Candidate will receive a gold leaf Certificate of Authenticity (C.O.A) signed by their favorite Governing Body Member.
In addition to the foregoing adjustments, we are pleased to announce that for a small contribution, Baptized Witnesses will now receive a gold plated pin for each year they have been Baptized. It is highly recommended that these pins be displayed on Publishers Bookbags or Lapels as an encouraement to one another as well as a means for us to identify any non believers in our midst.
With the assistance of our Creator's Holy Spirit, we are certain you will adjust easily to these fine new arrangements and will find spiritual refreshment knowing you too are moving forward with Jehovah's growing organization.
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"Holy cult hypocrisy, Batman!": Wow! I just have to share TheUnwitness' call to WT HQ!
by Island Man inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iykyoyygu4s.
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Pete Zahut
I think I might have left the disfellowshipped part out and simply asked him what the societies recomendation is on how to treat baptized family members or friends who join another religon or simply leave the Watchtower becasuse they don't believe it anymore. He might have said that you should avoid any unecessary contact with them. At that point you could direct him to the article where they said one should be free to change their religion without being punished.
Either way, you can tell this guy is just sick of once again being on the defensive over some out in left field statement made in the magizines and or has a really low opinion of anyone who is disfellowshipped. I didn't hear any compassion or concern for the "lost sheep" or the possibility of gaining a brother back. His voice and demenor really reflects the true tone of this organization as a whole.
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An Anti-Witnessing Campaign, Please Join Me!
by What Now? inin the past few weeks, the shunning issue has become a very personal one for me, and i have begun to realize that it is not just enough for me and my family to fade out.
after some recent events, i am motivated to start some anti-watchtower activism of my own.. i, like many others, have hoped that there would be a scandal of epic proportions within the organization, something that would wake others up and trigger a mass exodus.. while i am still hopeful that this may happen, it seems that the organization is too good at damage control, and heightening the paranoia surrounding apostates.. but what if the ex-witness community tried a different approach?.
what if, to borrow a hockey term, a sort of shut out situation was created?.
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Pete Zahut
Assuming that there are people who already know who JW's are and already don't want them bothering them, I wouldn't go into the JW beliefs aspect too much on the flyer. It may make the householder want to ask questions the next time a JW calls rather than put them off.
I think it might be good to give them a brief explanation of the "Do Not Call" option along with a pre-printed do not call form letter that could be easily sent off to HQ or the local Hall. Or if one wants to be truly devious, one could send a Do Not Call request in for every house in the neighborhood and bypass the householder altogether. If we all did this, what do you think would happen? You'd have to make sure the letters were all different looking. Heck....you could just open the phone book and start writing down names and addresses.
Of course you know that in a year or two there'll be and assembly experience about how a study was started as a direct result of someone having received one of these letters and being interested enough to ask for a study.